As part of my “National Sovereignty is dead!” series, I wanted to share some feedback to my writings.
To do so, I present to you an exchange I had with someone who had recently read my latest blog posts. To protect the innocent, what I am at liberty to say is that this person is a regular, brilliant, creative, erudite patron of Camaradas who we’ll call Modesto Guerrero. The conversation started off with a bit of chatter and then M.G. got down to business….
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M.G.:
But what do you suggest instead of independence?
JFM:
That is part of the point…there are no good alternatives at this point in history
No one has them,
M.G.:
So… we’re screwed…?
JFM:
They are being born in the minds of activists and thinkers of how to ensure well-being when the state is a shriveled husk
We just gotta think hard!
Future generations depend on us!!
M.G.:
If independence is not the answer, and neither is statehood nor commonwealth, what exactly are you suggesting?
JFM:
I am not suggesting anything…that’s the thing. NO human has the golden path. Its being worked out around the world as I type
JFM:
All manner of fuckedupness happening there
JFM:
Hey, in the absence of a plan, a plan is THE plan.
JFM:
The left has nothing concrete to offer yet.
M.G.:
In lieu of golden paths, suggest some silver paths (I’ll take a bronze or leaden path). It’s frustrating to espouse that there is no answer.
JFM:
Fuck, give me dirt but a path
M.G.:
How productive is it to remind us that the situation is fucked without even the slightest semblance of a plan?
M.G.:
It’s disheartening.
JFM:
The thing is that in order to get the right answer, you have to ask the right question. People have been assuming that they have an answer. But its a 19-20th Century question. Yu’ll never get the right answer if you ask the wrong question.
I am proposing that we ask the right question.
That is my point
If its sad, boo hoo. Then think.
M.G.:
You don’t offer a replacement question.
JFM:
I’d rather deal with a disheartening reality, than a heartening fantasy. First one you got a chance, second will bite your ass in a big way anyhow.
Not yet, this is the set-up.
M.G.:
You have a question.
JFM:
C’mon, the set-up is implicit.
[OK] Kinda…how do you assure a populations well being in the absence of an effective state?
Might not be right…I like everybody else am sussing out possible questions.
However, you do see my point that the direction that the global 1% is taking us (in which the USA is like THE major player) is redefining the game? They are getting rid of effective states. You see my point right?
M.G.:
What is your definition of “effective” here?
And has there ever been a truly “effective” state anywhere?
JFM:
housing, jobs, healthcare education, basically delivering on the universal declaration of human rights
Some more, some less. Some good in some areas, not so good in others. Scandinavian countries have many good qualities.
Try Netherlands
Costa Rica has no army. Big plus!!
M.G.:
But trying to find a truly “effective” state in your wording is like trying to find the meaning of the word “utopia” (“nowhere”).
JFM:
please acknowledge if you get my point.
JFM:
No. Its like if the UDHR is a ten-point list, you want them 5 and up not 4 or down
4 and down.
A State that has 7 is better than 4.
We want more checks than less. Its measurable, there are many metrics.
M.G.:
But if you are suggesting that Puerto Rico not be independent (because it cannot do so at the moment), how can it ever get out from its current predicament? How can it become this effective state you are suggesting?
JFM:
How can countries measure the well-being of their citizens?
Watch this video from TED@BCG Berlin, a TED-curated event featuring a diverse group of speakers from across the BCG community.
https://www.ted.com/watch/ted-institute/ted-bcg/how-can-countries-measure-the-well-being-of-their-citizens
JFM:
I’m suggesting that independence is not an answer.
M.G.:
But what is, in place of independence? At least as we have known it.
JFM:
The whole frame of the political status is wrong. The whole thing of State, commonwealth, nation is wrong. We have to think out of that box.
NO HUMAN HAS AN ANSWER
Sad but true. The 1% is currently beating us.
M.G.:
Who currently thinks out of that box? You are postulating a paradigm heretofore never considered.
JFM:
They are ahead of the game, we have to think and think and think and be creative
I’m sure other people have thought about it…they get no traction because most folks are trapped in the box
In my view, you have to understand my argument to see that lots and lots of thinking is “in the box”.
All I can do right now is say we need the right question and try to formulate it. The right question will lead to the right answer.
Sorry that I can’t be the PR national Daddy, but I’m a kid like the rest of us.
M.G.:
Yes, but what’s outside the box in this scenario. An analogy would be to say that we live in this solar system. You posit that we think outside the solar system.
JFM:
Hey, some people think the destiny of humanity lies in the stars
M.G.:
Before we send boricuas into space en masse, this should perhaps have a better scenario than nothing works and come up with a totally new way that no one has ever thought up before.
JFM:
Here’s where emotions come in. If you can’t uplift, comfort, reassure people, then they frequently prefer fantasy. Understandable, but one thing my father’s death showed me is that reality wins in the end.
JFM:
You’re getting upset esteemed colleague, I get it. But we have to move past upset and do the work of figuring things out. The world isn’t here for our amusement and pleasure only, it offers lots of not cool stuff no matter how much we don’t like it.
M.G.:
I am not even remotely getting upset. I just don’t see the feasibility of expressing that all options are wrong and that you are suggesting that a whole new question should be asked, and then not have any semblance of a question formulated.
It takes you, the person suggesting this paradigm shift, conveniently off the hook.
I am confused as to why would you bring it up and then not even theorize or have a suggestion on what to do next.
JFM:
ok. You seemed a bit perturbed. Yeah, the question is like GIANT. I”m not fucking Einstein. IF I had the answer, I’d be fucking the head of the UN or something.
I’m just a Bx kid trying to make sure I ain’t poor when I’m old.
M.G.:
First off, you are aware that communication of this sort is often cold and impersonal. Please don’t assume you know what I am feeling based on the words I am writing.
And you are way more than your average Bronx kid. (Rafael can vouch for that as well.)
JFM:
My apologies. As you pointed out, I buy TP from Costco
M.G.:
Actually I believe I said that when you shit, you wipe your ass just like everyone else. (Pardon the crude, colloquial nature of my words.)
JFM:
My point exactly, I am but paraphrasing your insightful words
M.G.:
But it also sounds like you are not even looking for an answer. Just passing the buck elsewhere.
It would seem to an outside eye that you are obfuscating the entire issue.
(Which I don’t think you are doing.)
Q: What is better, independence or remaining a colony?
A: Broccoli.
JFM:
Why I bring it up? Its my responsibility to put my best thinking to a problem. It’s like in science, you don’t have all the answers to the questions you pose. You just got to stick with it.
BUT if you ask the wrong question, guaranteed you’ll get the wrong answer
M.G.:
How are you so sure that you have the right question?
JFM:
I’m not. I just know what the wrong question is. At least in my opinion.
M.G.:
Okay.
JFM:
How would you feel if I posted our dialog on my blog? I think it’s great!
M.G.:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
JFM:
You make me think and sharpen my wits. Anyhow more later as I gotta do some work. Let me know.
M.G.:
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